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Did the Egg or Chicken Came First?

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Egg or Chicken?

Post by Agent Cosmic on Thu May 29, 2008 4:30 am

Which do you think came first? The egg or the chicken? Why?

AN EGG
A chicken wouldn't be able to grow without being in an egg, if not how would it eat? It might be possible for an egg to be produced but mutated form something else. Maybe it was fertilized by a wrong father. Let me think




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Re: Egg or Chicken?

Post by Doctor Inferno on Sat May 31, 2008 1:25 pm

erm, it's probably an egg. or er... the chicken?

it's quite difficult to think actually... probably a micro organism? i don't know. Let me think


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Re: Egg or Chicken?

Post by Biglowz on Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:04 am

Dude.. =.= i dont think either came first.. Since god made everything we'll only know the answer when we go to heaven.. Cheesy Grin (sparkly

Just for fun.. i'd say the egg.. cause without the egg there would be no chicken, i noe you might say without chickens there'd be no egg.. of course god made the first egg XD Honored

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Re: Egg or Chicken?

Post by TeReX on Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:45 am

i'd say egg, but a single cell egg.

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Re: Egg or Chicken?

Post by Agent Cosmic on Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:51 am

And so it seems that so far everyone agrees that it's the egg. No oppositions?




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Re: Egg or Chicken?

Post by Biglowz on Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:46 am

Hmm.. to spice things up alittle.. I OPPOSE!!

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Re: Egg or Chicken?

Post by Safan on Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:14 pm

during the fertilisation of the egg it would seem most likely the evolution to develop to create the chicken of which we know of today Let me think

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Re: Egg or Chicken?

Post by Agent Cosmic on Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:35 am

Something like mixing different eggs with different sperms? Let me think




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Re: Egg or Chicken?

Post by rattakua on Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:25 am

i say both. Cheesy Grin (sparkly


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Re: Egg or Chicken?

Post by zaviershk on Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:13 am

I'd say egg Let me think

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Re: Egg or Chicken?

Post by dino_domino on Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:39 pm

I think the most logical is egg.

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Re: Egg or Chicken?

Post by lickinlick on Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:12 am

I voted for egg.

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Re: Egg or Chicken?

Post by fatguy on Sat Jun 21, 2008 6:50 am

I voted for egg.

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Re: Egg or Chicken?

Post by dhruvbaid on Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:03 am

I voted for egg, since it is the highest %

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Re: Egg or Chicken?

Post by therarebluerose on Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:51 am

i guess it is egg too.

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Re: Egg or Chicken?

Post by icytaizi on Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:53 am

I strongly think that it is Chicken. voted chicken

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Re: Egg or Chicken?

Post by Agent Cosmic on Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:29 pm

Finally we got an opposition. Cheesy Grin (sparkly




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Re: Egg or Chicken?

Post by TeReX on Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:02 pm

I even strongly than you think it is egg. XD

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Re: Egg or Chicken?

Post by xpreetzo on Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:39 am

egg take the lead! Hooray!

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Re: Egg or Chicken?

Post by hairyboy on Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:13 pm

I voted egg

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Re: Egg or Chicken?

Post by Bestiie on Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:21 pm

Probably egg, i guess.

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Re: Egg or Chicken?

Post by Walking-Joke on Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:12 am

voted egg.. i think it's the closest.

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Re: Egg or Chicken?

Post by GT_Legend on Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:55 am

Well in blibical terms its would be the chicken as God say the created animals first...However in the owrld of science both answers can be right or worng as there is no solid prove of which came first!

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Re: Egg or Chicken?

Post by zaviershk on Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:17 am

Evolution made both come at the same time maybe...

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Re: Egg or Chicken?

Post by Agent Cosmic on Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:25 am

If chicken were to come first. Then it would not grow as there is not yolk/egg white to eat.




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Re: Egg or Chicken?

Post by POG on Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:35 am

I say chicken cause God created all the humans and living things yeah so the chicken came first den the egg LOL why would the Egg come first? Dinosaur left the egg there and tadah!!! Over years it change into a chicken egg? LOL

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Re: Egg or Chicken?

Post by Jerry Parnell on Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:45 am

After you are done reading this, your thinking will never be the same.

According to the thery of evolution, two living creatures of close to the same DNA mate, to create a different yet simeler creature.

I actually spent about 4 months of constant research in an attemtp to understand and correctly answer this very question.


Most of the antiant creatures laid eggs as most where lizzards and fish (Putting it simply).
But there where a few mammles who did not lay eggs. But was it a lizzard, or a mammle? Or is a chicken both?

The humble chicken is classified as a bird, but how was the bird made?

Half way through my research I came to an answer. The chicken has reptialian skin, but the features of a mammle. Logicly, that says that it was a cross between both...

The thing is, was the female lizzard, or mammle? If it was mammle, then the chicken was born dry, thus coming first. But if the female was lizzard, then the chicken would have been born as an egg.

Any creature gets 66% of its mothers features, thus, whichever it had more of, would be the mother.
Taking that into account, I figured out that the chicken has more mammle then lizzard. The only lizzard features it has, are skaily feet and lays eggs. However, its skin, eyes, movement, matting patterns, and beak came from a mammle. Thus, its mother was a mammle.


Therefore, the only logical thing to conclude is.....




The chicken came before the egg!
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Re: Egg or Chicken?

Post by Doctor Inferno on Tue Aug 19, 2008 8:24 am

hmmm... Very interesting. But, look what I found:

-Science and Evolution

Species change over time in the process of evolution. Since DNA can only be modified before birth, a mutation must have taken place at conception or within an egg such that an animal similar to a chicken, but not a chicken, laid the first chicken egg.

However, a mutation in one individual is not normally considered a new species. A speciation event involves the separation of one population from its parent population, so that interbreeding ceases; this is the process whereby domesticated animals are genetically separated from their wild forebears. The whole separated group can then be recognized as a new species.

The modern chicken was believed to have descended from another closely related species of birds, the red junglefowl, but recently discovered genetic evidence suggests that the modern domestic chicken is a hybrid descendant of both the red junglefowl and the grey junglefowl. Assuming the evidence bears out, a hybrid is a compelling scenario that the egg came before the chicken.


Syntax In a manner of avoiding the question or joking, it can be said that "the chicken" came first—in the structure of the question, simply because the words "the chicken" are said before the words "the egg" when the question is asked. In a question that is phrased differently, the answer would be different. Similarly, Randy Garner jokingly refers to an encyclopedic solution:

"These supporters call attention to the Merriam-Webster Collegiate Dictionary (2001). Upon careful examination of the entries and accompanying definitions, one can accurately assert that “chicken” is found on page 232, while “egg” is not found until page 398. Therefore, according to this argument, chicken clearly comes before egg.

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It is a question that has vexed philosophers since the Greeks. But it seems we may now have the answer to the beguilingly simple question: "Which came first?" It's the egg.

This reassuring conclusion was the work of an expert panel including a philosopher, geneticist and chicken farmer.

"Whether chicken eggs preceded chickens hinges on the nature of chicken eggs," said panel member and philosopher of science David Papineau at King's College London.

"I would argue it's a chicken egg if it has a chicken in it. If a kangaroo laid an egg from which an ostrich hatched, that would surely be an ostrich egg, not a kangaroo egg. By this reasoning, the first chicken did indeed come from a chicken egg, even though that egg didn't come from chickens.".....

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Hmmm... The question remains then... Chicken or Egg??


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Re: Egg or Chicken?

Post by Agent Cosmic on Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:42 am

@ Jerry and Doctor,
Indeed those are some logical explanation. I am quite willing to believe that it was the egg which cam first, but still there is no evidence to support our believe.

Any creature gets 66% of its mothers features, thus, whichever it had more of, would be the mother.
Taking that into account, I figured out that the chicken has more mammle then lizzard. The only lizzard features it has, are skaily feet and lays eggs. However, its skin, eyes, movement, matting patterns, and beak came from a mammle. Thus, its mother was a mammle.
A good idea on a mixture of genes. But the question is how or why would they end up together? Could they have mated?

Species change over time in the process of evolution. Since DNA can only be modified before birth, a mutation must have taken place at conception or within an egg such that an animal similar to a chicken, but not a chicken, laid the first chicken egg.
If a kangaroo laid an egg from which an ostrich hatched, that would surely be an ostrich egg, not a kangaroo egg. By this reasoning, the first chicken did indeed come from a chicken egg, even though that egg didn't come from chickens.
That's the support for the possible case where egg come first. the second quote explains that the first quote should be the egg which came first.




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Re: Egg or Chicken?

Post by Jerry Parnell on Sun Sep 14, 2008 3:12 am

Exactly.

Though scientific studies show that it could have been eather, there is far more proof pointing at egg...



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